From Science to Storytelling With Amy Lanci: Episode 66

Meet Amy Lanci, the communication consultant who turned her personal quest for clarity into a professional legacy. Join us on the Resonate podcast as Amy shares her transformative story, from her days as a speech-delayed child to becoming the founder of Untold Story Enterprises.

Amy’s tale is one of listening, in every sense of the word. From her initial roles in health coaching and copywriting, she harnessed her unique ability to listen—a skill deeply rooted in her childhood experiences. This skill became her secret weapon as she transitioned into a consulting role, where understanding and empathy are paramount. In our conversation, we explore the often-overlooked art of listening and how it can transform communication. Amy unlocks the mental processes that occur when one truly listens, offering a fresh perspective on the silent power that can lead to profound connections and insights.

As we wrap up, Amy reveals her creative ventures beyond consulting. Her books, “Listen Up” and “The Email Communication Bible,” are just the beginning of her literary journey, with an inspiring children’s book series on the horizon. Tune in to unearth the treasures of authentic communication and the magic of voicing what lies within your heart.

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Aideen Ni Riada: 0:03 Welcome to the Resonate podcast with Aideen. I’m Aideen Ni Riada, and my guest today is Amy Lanci. Amy is a communication consultant, speaker and founder of Untold Story Enterprises. She specializes in helping organizations with internal communication, teamwork and leadership. She also guides her clients in crafting their stories to connect with audiences and establish authority. Amy is the author of two books Listen Up and the Email Communication Bible and I have to say to everyone as well that Amy and I are friends. She’s been a client of mine for a few years as well, and I’m so excited to have her on the show today. Thanks for joining us, Amy.

Aideen Ni Riada: 0:50 Thank you for having me here so you have been part of my journey since I moved to the US. You’re one of my first online clients, all the way over in San Diego and me being in Michigan, and it’s been an absolute pleasure working with you. Your business has kind of evolved a lot and I’m just wondering about you know what your journey over the last few years has been like, because I know that finding your voice was a very big part of your journey. It hasn’t been all plain sailing, right.

Amy Lanci: 1:31 Oh gosh, no, it’s not been plain sailing at all. I mean, it’s not been the highest of tides and the greatest of storms, but it definitely has gotten stormy sometimes. So when I think back to when I first met you, you know and you mentioned that you were, you know, a vocal coach and, unbeknownst to you and unbeknownst to the person that introduced us, I had been thinking very strongly to get singing lessons, because singing was always very important to me, but it was always the I’m going to sing in the shower kind of thing. And then when I met you, I just, you know, I think we were about we were treating it as if it was a normal networking call, and then, right at the very end, I said, hey, how much? If, let’s just say, I wanted to do some vocal lessons, how much would you charge? And you told me what your rate was and I knew automatically that that was well within my budget. So I said, let’s do it, let’s do it. And then, I just remember you were like, okay, okay, let’s do it. And so, um, but I, I just remember you know what started off as what I thought was vocal lessons.

Amy Lanci: 2:42 You know, I realized that, um, you know if, if there was something stressful that happened that day and it was on my mind but I was trying to put on my game face of like, all right, let’s just do this singing lesson.

Amy Lanci: 2:58 You know I could tell that you could tell that there was something going on and that you know you would ask me questions to earn my trust and, to, you know, give me that space to talk about what was really going on.

Amy Lanci: 3:14 And you know, what was interesting was that I noticed that as soon as I did that, my voice was less strained, it was easier to reach the notes, I was clearer.

Amy Lanci: 3:25 I could just tell automatically that what I thought was quote unquote allergies or stress was actually just like just blockage of blocks on my voice. More of that, because I knew that that was really important and I already knew that you know there are emotions that could get trapped in our bodies, but I could tell that by working with you I could see that very practical, that practical end result of like, okay, if I talk about what’s really going on, then my voice clears up, I can speak better, and that really made an impact on the way I see my value, the way that I presented myself and the way that I set boundaries or even just the way that I looked at my particular role in different situations with clients. Yeah, it really working with you really helps me to better understand where I can draw the line in terms of, like, what is fair for me, and also in what ways is the situation or myself blocking my voice.

Aideen Ni Riada: 4:45 Yeah, it’s so interesting because I think since I started working with people around singing, I’ve always been really conscious that whatever’s going on inside us is having a very strong impact on what we feel capable of doing, how much we will say about certain things and how we communicate. And it just seemed to develop from there that I just had this awareness about what was going on with people. I somehow would tune into them and I’d know that it was. It wasn’t like just a vocal, you know, exercise solution. It was, uh, let’s, you know, work on what’s really going on for you today, like, how are you today, you know? Let’s, let’s have that conversation first.

Aideen Ni Riada: 5:36 I think a lot of us do jump into our day without asking that question. You know we’re like okay, I’ve got like that. I put my game face on, I will get started with my work, I’ll do my job. Um, and it’s only and I’m guilty of this as well as only a few days later you go hang on a second. I haven’t been that happy the last few days. I must be something a little bit off, and then I’ll realize oh yeah, I have been stressed since Tuesday because I’ve been wanting to do this and this and I can’t do both at the same time. Whatever it was, and that ability to see it in others hasn’t cured it in me Like I still. I still have these moments myself, and thankfully my husband is um, but he’s uh, he’s, he’s good, but he’s um. I’m resilient and I can take a lot, I can put up with a lot, and then if I don’t ask myself, how am I today?

Amy Lanci: 6:40 that’s going to be a problem.

Aideen Ni Riada: 6:42 That’s where we all need to imagine that it’s okay to be who you are and how you are right now. Yeah, because we tend to push those things away.

Amy Lanci: 6:55 Like you know, like you said, and do whatever I need to do, when really the root cause of stress or just the perception of how a situation is actually needs to be addressed first, and then action can be taken. And I was so into action mode that it’s like, oh wait, how is Amy actually doing? And then, when you were talking, Aideen, I was thinking about how, you know, you know I, when I help my clients, when they’re in, you know they’re they are seeking my advice or telling me, like how do I word it to this person in this situation, you know, I do provide that space where they are able to tell me how they really are. But you know, but I have a feeling with same with you and Aideen, that it’s. You know, it’s like, well, the person like me and you like we are the people who are asking other people how they’re doing, but then, you know, making sure that we’re asking ourselves or we have other people who are asking us how are we doing? What’s going on?

Aideen Ni Riada: 8:04 What’s going on? What’s going on? Yes, what’s going on? Yeah, I agree, I think, because you work as a communications consultant, your whole thing is about helping people to express themselves, right? So it’s not like through singing. It’s not through like I do more than just singing, as you know as well, Amy. Oh, yeah, well, it’s not through like I do more than just singing, as you know as well, Amy, but with you it’s very much. It’s often written words that they’re trying to connect those written words to the truth in a way that helps them connect. So, yes, when, when you’re you’ve got other things on your mind, like you’re, you’re thinking, well, I just want my written words to sell something, or I just want my written words to tell this part of my story.

Amy Lanci: 9:10 So people will, most often, come to you with their project and have lots of ideas. But that’s probably not. You’re not going to just go. Okay, I’m on board, I’ll just do it your way. What is the process that you use to make space for someone to go a little deeper? Basically, got it.

Amy Lanci: 9:20 Usually, you know, if they are very strategy and goal oriented, usually I have to go back to well, why are we doing this in the first place? Back to well, why are we doing this in the first place? And sometimes, you know, sometimes, I will get the, the rehearsed answer like well, because we want to get more leads. Or or because we well, that’s more for marketing standpoint, but for internal communication it’s more like because we want to be more productive. And it’s like, okay, well, what has caused the lack of productivity before? And you know.

Amy Lanci: 9:48 But I find that when I ask that question outright, I have to gauge where the client is. I have to, you know, search my intuition and say, okay, like, are they in a defensive spot or are they very open right now? And so if they’re very open, being direct is great. If they’re not in that open spot, then it’s about peeling back the layers with different questions, because I know that you know if there’s a sore spot or if there’s something at the root that they’ve been trying to get at, but they don’t know what.

Amy Lanci: 10:21 That is the moment I ask a question and I give space for that, it’s going to get to that root answer. It’s like oh, because we have been arguing so much lately and it’s people are starting to see that. Or, you know, we feel like where our department is alone and everyone else is looking badly upon us. You know, like that’s a different story than hey, let’s just like, do this thing get in there? And so, yeah, it starts by peeling back the layer with the right questions, with curiosity, using intuition to kind of gauge where people are, and then it’s about okay, so what is it that you really are trying to say and how and what would you like to happen? So just kind of like it has to. It’s kind of like what I was saying with your set, my sessions with you, that you know we have to dive deeper first before we figure out how to move forward.

Aideen Ni Riada: 11:17 And I love how that you actually can outline those points so clearly, because that’s something that I because I work very intuitively, I can’t always say that there’s a, there’s a um, a process that I’m taking people through, but it sounds to me like you. You have something. You you’re very clearly articulating how your brain works while working with people, and I am not sure that I could articulate it quite the same, but the interesting thing is that we are all hiding from the things that are hard.

Amy Lanci: 11:55 Ah, yes, yes, Uh-huh, oh yeah, Because something in us is saying we don’t need to deal with that right now, or this is irrelevant to the situation, I can deal with that later. Or I think the even deeper question is you know, do we feel worthy of dealing with that hurt? So it’s, and it all depends on the person and the situation. And it all depends on the person and the situation. But saying what’s hurting and what’s hard is the first step, and that’s very challenging for a lot of people. And what do you need to do that? What do you need for that? You need your voice. So it goes back to communication and it goes back to you. Know what is stopping you from saying?

Aideen Ni Riada: 12:46 something out loud, yeah, yeah, and I just love your ability to create a safe space for that too thank you, thank you.

Amy Lanci: 12:55 Well, you do the same thing. You do the same thing for me. Uh, you know, it’s like, and I mean I come into our sessions now and I’m just like ready to tell you like what’s been going on and like you don’t have to dig anymore. I’m just like, ah, you, she’s going to figure out some things up anyway, so why hide it?

Aideen Ni Riada: 13:15 Absolutely yeah. So, look, I have been with you through the journey. I’ve been on the sidelines for two books that you’ve written over the last two years, and I know you’re writing your kids’ books now too. Tell us a little bit about your journey as an author, because I mean working going from, like you know, all the different things you’ve done which you haven’t really talked about, all the different things you’ve done. Maybe you should tell us a little bit about that first, because it might make more sense than to speak about you as an author.

Amy Lanci: 13:49 Right. So, going back in time, I was a sea turtle lab technician. So in other words, I worked in the lab for 14 years and I would process turtle skin blood, you know, all kinds of different sea turtle tissue samples in order to extract DNA and to generate that data within a science institution. And I did that for 14 years and on top of that I did field work with different sea turtles. So before I get lost in the sea turtle world because I know that sea turtles are very charismatic and lots of people only want to know about the sea turtle part I just want to say that I was in that world.

Amy Lanci: 14:35 I was in that world and it was very interesting to see how scientists operate, what needs to happen for a scientific journal to accept a study and to see like the whole scientific method happening over and over again. And then, part of the way through that career, I met the man who is now my husband, Michael, and at the same time I found out I had some health issues that really need to be addressed. I was only 24. And so I went through this whole personal development health journey, and so, while I did get my health back on track, I found myself in such a way where I was looking at my current career as a scientist, as a science lab technician, technically, and it didn’t match. It didn’t match what I had just gone through. It didn’t match me at the core. And so I went into business for myself, first as a health coach, made no money from that, and then I went to copywriting, which is basically writing for marketing and branding strategy and purposes, and I got started getting clients that way and that was really interesting because writing was always important to me, because I was a speech delay child and I did not speak for a long time, but writing was my thing. Writing was a really great way for me to be heard. And so, to go back to writing, it was like the universe was like yeah, go this way, keep going this way, and keep following this trail, Amy. So I did copywriting yeah, for at least the first three years of my business, just completely copywriting.

Amy Lanci: 16:21 And then I realized that as I was helping my clients with their about page copy, I can’t tell you how many tears were shed. I can’t tell you how many tears were shed. I can’t tell you how many really deep, wonderful moments I witnessed. And you know, I realized that you know, the work that I would do with my clients was really, really important on a personal level, because it wasn’t just hey, let me write your about page copy. It was about hey, let me just figure out why this business is so important to you, why is this audience so, why do you want to make such a big impact with this audience? You know how did you get started and you know that can come from a very, very deep place, especially if you’re a very heart-centered business owner and so uh, so kind of.

Amy Lanci: 17:13 So I went into more, uh, more consulting in addition to offering copywriting. And then I also did some work with internal organizations, with organizations for their internal communication, like listening to their stakeholders stories and you, in a way, just kind of diving into mediatorship and figuring out that there are a lot of dynamics within an organization, within a department, within among different departments too, and then when you put in the stakeholders in there, it can get kind of crazy. But I realized I had a knack for kind of zooming out and listening to what was happening and then trying to figure out what was really happening under the surface. So now we get to this point of just.

Amy Lanci: 18:02 You know I’ve had a lot of marketing experience, a lot of branding experience and other experiences with science and organizations and learning teen dynamics, and it’s just been an interesting way for life to spiral back to the core of it, which is helping people to be heard. Everything I’ve ever done whether it’s speaking or writing, or even when I did copywriting or I, you know or when I do consulting, it’s about making sure that my clients are heard. It’s about making sure that we hear the story of also the people they’re trying to reach, whether it’s their team member or, you know, their prospective audience. You know, everything I’ve ever done is to make sure people are heard and make sure that I’m heard too. So that’s how that’s been my journey really, and that’s like when I say I’m a communication consultant. It really is about, you know, making sure that I advocate for my clients by helping them find the words that they’ve been meaning to find.

Aideen Ni Riada: 19:12 Well, one thing that stood out to me in everything you just said was that you listen, and I’m wondering if your skill of listening is almost the stronger skill even to your ability to put it back into words, back to that person. Because of course you mentioned very briefly there that you were speech delayed. You spent more time listening than the average kid. I’m sure I talked way more than you when I was little because I was not speech delayed by any stretch of the imagination I was like I was basically being ignored because I was talking so much, probably, but the key here is the listening part, I feel.

Aideen Ni Riada: 19:55 Yeah, do you acknowledge that skill in yourself?

Amy Lanci: 20:02 You know what I do. And then I don’t. Like, if I were to be completely honest right now, I feel like the moment you called it out just now, because you just called me out just in your very loving way Like I feel like I use my listening as a secret weapon, and not the kind to hurt people, but the kind that, like, people are not expecting. But it’s like sometimes I feel like my listening is the underdog that nobody really wants to hear about, and that’s just my own internal voice saying that, and that’s mainly just it’s because it’s always happening in the background. It’s always happening in the background, but it’s not the hero of the story, or it’s not the obvious hero of the story, because when someone is speaking, you hear that, you hear that it’s quite, it gets people’s attention. But listening, though listening is the biggest tool, but it’s just that. It’s, you know it’s, it’s silent.

Aideen Ni Riada: 21:15 It’s very silent.

Amy Lanci: 21:18 It’s silent, so people don’t really notice, or maybe they do, but they, they see that I, I don’t know it’s yeah, so I do have um, I do have issues, um, or it’s a work in progress to acknowledge that within myself.

Aideen Ni Riada: 21:35 Well, I’m just glad you did today.

Amy Lanci: 21:37 Yeah, thank you See. This is just a little piece of like. Just imagine you know how. Like little snippets like that, but like in 60-minute segments every two weeks, like that’s how it is with me and Aideen, it’s like right, what is? What else does Amy need to own?

Aideen Ni Riada: 21:52 so, but we all need that. It’s like we’re. It’s like we’re mirror. We mirror each other, you know, which is lovely, yeah so. But here’s another part, because this is the really nice thing about interviewing someone I know so well, because I know exactly what I want to ask next. So you’ve got that listening part right. But the thing about the listening yes, it’s silent, yes, it is unacknowledged and unnoticed and maybe undervalued. But within that silence, there’s a lot going on. And what’s going on in?

Aideen Ni Riada: 22:30 that head of yours, Amy, because I know from knowing you right and your background in science and the way that you look at things, the way you investigate things. We talked about that before previously that you are. There’s something happening in your mind while you’re listening, right?

Amy Lanci: 22:53 Oh, yeah, yeah, it’s not just blank space. Yeah, you know, I never had an opportunity to really talk about what’s going on in my mind. That’s a great question. So whenever I and this is for everyone I speak to, and I hope I don’t make anyone feel self-conscious whenever they come talk to me, but whenever I speak to, and I hope I don’t make anyone feel self-conscious whenever they come talk to me, but whenever I speak to someone, um, I first kind of get a read on them. Like you know, my first you know kind of energetic read, like okay, like, are you open? Is there a wall? You know, I just I feel that right away.

Amy Lanci: 23:29 And then, as someone is talking, I’m listening, I’m listening to what they’re saying and I’m making sense of what they’re saying to me in my mind, kind of like putting together a puzzle, because I’ve had people tell me point blank what they’re talking about. But then there’s some people who will ramble and that’s fine, I’ll put it together in my head. And then there’s some people who they’ll tell me a lot of ideas and I’ll compile them in my head and I’ll give them like a one-liner saying are you trying to say this? But what, most of all is happening underneath all of that because there’s a lot going on in my head is I’m listening for any words that pop out at me that someone may say so. For instance, if, let’s say, Aideen was talking to me and she was saying, how you know, back in Ireland, you know, when I was a kid I really loved my dog and my dog was so faithful and loving to me. Like if she said those words to me, I may pick up something on like faithful and loving, like there might be like something in my body. It feels like a chill, um, it’s almost like a it’s not like a lie detector test, but it’s more like like what are some words that are so meaningful to somebody that there’s something else that’s underneath that to just kind of focus on. And so I’ll.

Amy Lanci: 24:58 I’ll, when I hear that, when I feel that I’ll probably point that out and I point that out in the conversation, I’ll, when I hear that, when I feel that I’ll probably point that out in the conversation, I’ll say there’s something about the way you said loving and faithful. Is that something that is really important to you and that leads the conversation more? So? That’s what’s going on in my head. I’m like thinking of, I’m piecing together what people are saying. On in my head. I’m like thinking of, I’m piecing together what people are saying and I am, you know, feeling. What words are, you know, just popping out at me. There’s some, some attachment, or just some something really sentimental or special about certain words, or even like, even when someone’s upset, you know, there’s certain words that are pinging to me. I’ll be like there’s something about those, this word and this word that has to do with what’s at the root of why you’re upset. So that’s what’s going on in my head.

Aideen Ni Riada: 25:52 Very interesting. The diagnosis is you are awesome, thank you. Well, here is now the next thing that’s popping into my mind. The next word that’s jumping out and pinging for me is getting to the root of something. So what?

Aideen Ni Riada: 26:09 you said was that you somehow are able to, through their words, notice what is at the root of their either their values, or their pain, or their challenge. Yes, and having an insight into that must give you a lot of help, must be very helpful when you’re, you know, guiding someone to communicate, because that’s the problem is we, we hide from the things that hurt or the things that are hard. So you’re, you’re somehow finding those things so that you can make sure that that that’s not glossed over or avoided anymore.

Amy Lanci: 26:49 Yes, yes. And then I also have to take a read on the person and be like Hmm, is this person going to take my feedback? And so there are times when I have noticed, you know, okay, this person seems like they’re not in that stage, when they’re not ready to hear it. So I also will have to evaluate hmm, is it? Do I have a relationship where I can tell this person this thing yet? No, okay, I’m going to wait, I’m going to put that in my back pocket for now. Or you know, okay, is this person ready to hear this right now? Yes, but only if I say it in a very small, small, small increment, so they could take a little nibble and then I can see if they’re willing to take the whole cookie. So sometimes I have to like I had to just gauge where people are at too, um, well, actually not, sometimes it’s all the time. But, yeah, definitely, like I have been known to to um, not respond. Uh, if, uh, if I can tell they’re not, they’re not ready to respond yet.

Aideen Ni Riada: 27:58 Absolutely. How long is that process for your clients? I mean, if you were, you know what’s your idea. Length of time to work with a new client, minimum.

Amy Lanci: 28:09 So when I work with an organization, so it really depends on what the project is. But if the project is something along the lines of you know, we need to, we need to have better communication protocols, we need to teach the employees what the standard of conduct is, we need to figure out what the company voice is. That would take a minimum of three to six months, because I would need to get a better understanding. What is the company voice? You know, like, what is that? Like it may seem obvious to some people, but is it obvious to me? Probably not, not at first and probably most likely not obvious to everyone in the company. And and then, once I get a hold of it, it’s like well, how do we, how do we best teach that to everyone and how is this working within the current goals and milestones? All those big corporate words. But if you think on a smaller scale, with somebody who is saying, hey, I am wanting to better, hey, I am wanting to better clarify the messaging behind my business and I need to be able to tell that story, I need to be able to better explain what that means, then that could be as short as three months. Be, you know, that could be as short as three months. So it really depends on the like is it a person or an organization? And it depends on the project and the complexity of it.

Amy Lanci: 29:56 What’s your favorite kind of work to be doing right now? So, right now, let’s see my favorite type of work, uh, is working with, uh, people who see themselves as thought leaders, so, in other words, like people who naturally want to speak on stage and people who naturally want to write a book. Um, like it’s that double, that double whammy. Actually it’s a triple whammy, because they’re also in business for themselves too. Uh, they’re not just out there to be professional speakers. They are to be professional professional speakers, don’t get me wrong, but they’re also. They have some other vehicle that not only makes them income, but it’s, it’s their, it’s their baby, it’s their legacy, it’s the thing that uh, that their life mission is behind. So they I love working with those kind of people who feel like they’re meant for something big in this world and they have all these different avenues such as stages, podcasts, books that they really want to feel more confident about and really want to dive in. They just need some help to figure out what do they actually say, what do they want to say and how do they want to be perceived.

Amy Lanci: 31:12 So I love helping those people because they are just really. They are just really savvy, they are really passionate and they really just, you know they want to make an impact just as much as they want to make an income. So those are the people I really love to help, and I also really love the organizations. If we’re talking about the bigger companies, I really love the organizations who also feel very passionate about who they’re helping and they also feel very loving toward their workforce, and what I mean by that is you know they advocate for the workforce. You know they want to treat their employees fairly. You know they’re always trying to figure out how they can do better by them. So those are the kind of organizations I also really love working with, because they have their hearts and their minds in the right place. Now it’s just a matter of figuring out what’s missing, and you know how I can help them with that.

Aideen Ni Riada: 32:21 I love it. I love it, I love it. Thank you, uh, your big heart and their big heart together equals huge heart. Yes, absolutely one thing that we didn’t get back to earlier, um was talking about your books yes, oh yeah, my books.

Amy Lanci: 32:37 Yes, um, let’s see. So Listen Up was my very first book that was published in March of 2023. And I say that knowing full well that the journey to get there was five years before. And it’s a tiny little book, it’s a little. I call it my little power pocket book, but it took five years to get there because of just all the different writer’s blocks and times I questioned myself. You know, it was just a lot. Plus, I was working full time and had my business at, you know, in the very beginning stages. So there was and I was a new mom, so there was a lot going on. So I give myself grace for that.

Amy Lanci: 33:20 But Listen Up essentially was my way of bringing my experience of, you know, having been in science, having been in the spiritual, intuitive communities and also having been in the business communities, bringing the intuition, that creativity, that analytical thinking into the mix when it comes to communication and essentially breaking it down in such a way where it’s better, it’s easier to understand. When you’re speaking to someone who is very analytical, what do they need to hear in order to continue the conversation with you? Or, you know, when you’re speaking to someone who is very creative, like a business owner, you know how do you speak to hear in order to continue the conversation with you. Or you know, when you’re speaking to someone who is very creative, like a business owner, you know how do you speak to them in such a way where you earn their trust and you understand them faster than you might have otherwise. Or when you’re speaking with someone who is very intuitive and comes from that place, you know what are they actually looking for. And the little hint here is they’re not looking for fancy words, they’re looking for how open you are. So you know how do you present yourself as someone who is open.

Amy Lanci: 34:33 So I put together Listen Up as a way of just talking about these different populations, what they’re focusing on, and to really drive home the point that all of us we’re all three of them it’s just a matter of you know which one are we leaning more heavily into when it comes to communication, and how do we? How do we kind of switch our brains from one person who is heavily leaning in one bucket and then to another person who’s more heavily leaning into another bucket. So that was so. That’s Listen Up, that’s. That was my first book, baby, and then the second book baby. They came out earlier this year, in 2024, the Email Communication Bible and I I wrote and published that in six weeks. That was like the opposite of Listen Up, because I was just very clear in my mind that this has got to be a book to help people write better emails at work and come from the standpoint of being aware of your environment, the people you’re talking to, the relationship with someone and how do you come at that from a very compassionate, empathetic place. So those are my books, and that’s not all. There’s more coming right, oh gosh, yeah.

Amy Lanci: 35:49 And then I have my children’s books, which two have been written. The third one I’m going to be starting to write soon, and the first one is entering the editing process, editing and publishing process, and basically these are my very first fictional books that I will be publishing. My daughter is the main character in these books. Essentially, she finds herself at school one day and then somehow she’s magically transported to a magical land called untold story land, and so she goes through this whole journey to you know, in the first book she she learns what it means to listen to her intuition. And then the second book it’s all about courage and shadow work, actually shadow work for Kids. And then the third book that I will be working on will be talking about transformation and evolution and her way back home.

Amy Lanci: 36:54 So to me, these children books, they are my legacy pieces. It’s my giant I love you card to my daughter and it’s also just my I love you card to my internal, my inner child. Uh, what I would have, what I would have loved to have learned when I was younger and now know, now as a, as an older person, and it’s just yeah, it’s just really fun to dive into creativity and magic. And then I also put little teasers of things that I’ve learned along the way. So that’s I mean to anyone who’s ever wanted to write a book, whether it’s nonfiction or fiction. It’s an amazing process and it’s long. It can be long, but it can also be very short, but it’s also very rewarding in the very end and also rewarding along the way too.

Aideen Ni Riada: 37:54 Well, I’m excited to read your children’s books. I’m really fascinated to find out more about that and that’s a very exciting next phase for you. But it’s almost like you’re kind of holding different. It’s like you’re holding kind of slightly different creative projects all at the same time, which is a challenging thing. It’s something that I do myself, mm-hmm, and I admire that. So we have to start winding up now, but I would really love if there’s anything that you particularly want to say to our listeners, based on what it is that you, what do you like? I think it’s Oprah that says what do you know to be true, or what is it you would like to? You know, inspire people with.

Amy Lanci: 38:43 That’s a great question. Let me second and oh, this just came to me um, if there’s something that’s been on your heart, it needs to be said that’s deep Amy, thank you I’m not going to say anything else. Let that line resonate if there’s something, if there’s something on your heart, it needs to be said beautiful, thank you thank you to everybody who’s been listening to us today.

Aideen Ni Riada: 39:12 It’s always an honor. I believe people are listening. Sometimes I wonder, but it’s true, people do download this podcast and they do listen and I’m really grateful to all the listeners and we would love to hear how you received this podcast and what you think. And Amy is available. She works for a living. She wants clients, so please keep her in mind and look out for her books. We’ll definitely look out for the children’s book too, and I look forward to our next episode. Thank you all for being here. Bye.